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muddlingthrou · 11/04/2024 15:42
One of my absolute favourite foods in the world is moussaka - I adore it! But despite being a decent cook, I'm yet to nail a home made one. What am I doing wrong?
Please give me your tips for the best ever moussaka. I'm not particularly interested in making it healthy, so willing to throw whatever at it! My main complaints with my efforts are that the whole thing is a bit bland, the potatoes are either undercooked or crumbly, and the aubergines don't have that melty texture I love. Tell me the secret!
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idontlikealdi · 11/04/2024 16:44
Fry the aubergines and potatoes first.
At least a bottle of red wine.
A good load of dried mint, cinnamon stick, couple of bay leaves.
Cook the ragu down, if it's too wet the whole thing will be sloppy.
muddlingthrou · 11/04/2024 18:01
@idontlikealdi - thank you for your response! Please could you be more specific about the potatoes and aubergines - how long do you fry them for? Shallow fry I presume?
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toastofthetown · 11/04/2024 20:19
Felicity Cloake has a write up on moussaka. I love her articles because you can read though her learning and take what you think sounds good from all the recipes she tries. I’ve made it before with lentils (and a few other things to add a savoury flavour to the lentils) and it was very good.
How to cook perfect moussaka
A summer holiday favourite perfect for the British spring's combination of scintillating sunshine and sudden sharp showers
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2012/apr/05/how-to-cook-perfect-moussaka
soupfiend · 11/04/2024 20:20
The thing with aubergines, in order to cook them properly they take a lot of oil. I mean a LOT of oil
The average British home cook cant comprehend of that amount of oil.
But its the only way Ive managed to get them how Ive found them abroad and in restaurants
muddlingthrou · 11/04/2024 21:52
@toastofthetown - thank you, I'm also a fan of Felicity, but didn't think of searching her past articles. I'll look it up.
@soupfiend - ok, I suspected there might be a gallon of oil involved. Hm, I might be willing to try a no holds barred aubergine frying session to see if it gives me my dream results.
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soupfiend · 11/04/2024 22:18
Its the silkiness that just cant be created without cooking like that
However, I am still on a mission to work through a number of different methods to test them all out (I love aubergines)
So options are
- brushing with oil and baking in the oven
- deeper amount of oil and baking in the oven
- brushing with oil and slow frying in a pan with the lid on to speed cooking
- steaming the slices
- boiling the slices
So far I have done fairly deepish frying, not too high a heat, so soft and silky, not crispy, not too brown. Then I did a batch of slices which had been tossed around a bowl with a lot of oil, with a bit of oil in the pan, they crisped up too much on the edges and thats not what Im looking for
This is with a view to the perfect aubergine parmigiana (not always made with cheese by the way)
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rainontherooftop · 12/04/2024 06:33
soupfiend · 11/04/2024 22:18
Its the silkiness that just cant be created without cooking like that
However, I am still on a mission to work through a number of different methods to test them all out (I love aubergines)
So options are
- brushing with oil and baking in the oven
- deeper amount of oil and baking in the oven
- brushing with oil and slow frying in a pan with the lid on to speed cooking
- steaming the slices
- boiling the slices
So far I have done fairly deepish frying, not too high a heat, so soft and silky, not crispy, not too brown. Then I did a batch of slices which had been tossed around a bowl with a lot of oil, with a bit of oil in the pan, they crisped up too much on the edges and thats not what Im looking for
This is with a view to the perfect aubergine parmigiana (not always made with cheese by the way)
No way would I steam or boil aubergine. They're like sponges and you'll end up with a very soggy mess!
soupfiend · 12/04/2024 06:39
rainontherooftop · 12/04/2024 06:33
No way would I steam or boil aubergine. They're like sponges and you'll end up with a very soggy mess!
soupfiend · 11/04/2024 22:18
Its the silkiness that just cant be created without cooking like that
However, I am still on a mission to work through a number of different methods to test them all out (I love aubergines)
So options are
- brushing with oil and baking in the oven
- deeper amount of oil and baking in the oven
- brushing with oil and slow frying in a pan with the lid on to speed cooking
- steaming the slices
- boiling the slices
So far I have done fairly deepish frying, not too high a heat, so soft and silky, not crispy, not too brown. Then I did a batch of slices which had been tossed around a bowl with a lot of oil, with a bit of oil in the pan, they crisped up too much on the edges and thats not what Im looking for
This is with a view to the perfect aubergine parmigiana (not always made with cheese by the way)
Well thats what I thought but Ive seen it and read it so many times time on various cooking shows/cook books that Im going to give it a go and see what happens.
Cupcakegirl13 · 12/04/2024 06:44
You need this Hairy Bikers recipe it never fails
me https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/moussaka_01004
Moussaka recipe
This Hairy Bikers' moussaka recipe is a joy to behold, with cinnamon-spiced lamb mingling with aubergines and a delicious creamy sauce.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/moussaka_01004
suki1964 · 13/04/2024 00:01
I honestly think you can make a good moussaka without the oil
My rule is a slow cooked ragu and make it the day before for the flavours to develop
I do my aubergine slices in the air fryer on roast. Sliced, lightly sprayed with oil, in they go. When tossing or turning I toss in a large bowl lightly sprayed with oil and seasoned - it does work , takes a bit longer to get a good browning but you get there . When softened I put on to max crisp to get the colour - and hence flavour
WithIcePlease · 13/04/2024 00:31
I dry fry/pan roast the aubergine in slices or chunks depending on recipe. They brown nicely in a dry pan
muddlingthrou · 13/04/2024 07:05
@suki1964 - I've just got an air fryer this week, so this is good timing!
@WithIcePlease - super intrigued by the idea of dry frying the aubergines. I do this with courgettes and they go lovely and charred, but have never tried it with aubergine. I guess my concern is they'd go tough (my husband calls it 'elephant skin') rather than all melty. Do you cut the aubergine into thin slices?
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WithIcePlease · 13/04/2024 13:10
Depends on the recipe - sometimes in big strips for moussak
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WithIcePlease · 13/04/2024 13:12
Posted by accident
...and in cubes or chunks for a stove top moussaka
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